Wow !! Great on paper. I still scratch my head and wonder about how high that "weight bucket" is going to be. Unless, and here is the thing - he builds in a trigger, where as you boom the arm up, the post starts rising too. This would enable the operator to have control over the whole range of crane height. When the arm (camera) is low down, so is the post. As you boom up, the post rises as well to keep the "weight bucket" in the same general area. What this would really imply I think is one more electronic control (like the panther)for the post. Quite tricky to operate till you get used to it. The stability and flex on the arm is another issue altogether. I think there is very little he will be able to do apart from beef up the profile of the arm - this will obviously push the weight up substantially.
Ofcourse there have to be a flex on the arm, but that will always be, unless the arm is quite wide in its dimensions. With additional bracery like the cammotion (http://www.cammotion.co.uk/) you can achieve a lot.
My main concern is the base of the crane: it needs to be this heavy! or really wide-based! I will need to design 2 meter wide-base-track for it...!
The rising post will have to carry a lot of weight! As a Panther-owner I do realize that it is possible, but still... (I am completely confidenced in Horst' capabilities!)
That's the thing, to make it more stable, the arm will have to be that much heavier. A 50' can already be a beast to maneuover. With the bucket end at almost 30' long on a 12' base, we're going to need some help.
With all the electronics already in the Technos, it would be possible to do the jib with the post, you just need to attach the back of the arm with a circling part at the base, similar to the Super/Duojibs on a Panther/Magnum dolly.
While I feel uncomfortable with the Super/Duojibs for their unpredictable weight balance, this system might work pretty well on a Techno!
Hopefully this is readable. You may not want to see the specs as it is a little mind blowing...
Wow !!
ReplyDeleteGreat on paper. I still scratch my head and wonder about how high that "weight bucket" is going to be. Unless, and here is the thing - he builds in a trigger, where as you boom the arm up, the post starts rising too. This would enable the operator to have control over the whole range of crane height. When the arm (camera) is low down, so is the post. As you boom up, the post rises as well to keep the "weight bucket" in the same general area. What this would really imply I think is one more electronic control (like the panther)for the post. Quite tricky to operate till you get used to it.
The stability and flex on the arm is another issue altogether. I think there is very little he will be able to do apart from beef up the profile of the arm - this will obviously push the weight up substantially.
That's what I'm wondering. The flex on an arm that long, especially with so many moving parts will be substantial.
ReplyDeleteOfcourse there have to be a flex on the arm, but that will always be, unless the arm is quite wide in its dimensions. With additional bracery like the cammotion (http://www.cammotion.co.uk/) you can achieve a lot.
ReplyDeleteMy main concern is the base of the crane: it needs to be this heavy! or really wide-based! I will need to design 2 meter wide-base-track for it...!
The rising post will have to carry a lot of weight! As a Panther-owner I do realize that it is possible, but still... (I am completely confidenced in Horst' capabilities!)
Cheers,
Onno
That's the thing, to make it more stable, the arm will have to be that much heavier. A 50' can already be a beast to maneuover. With the bucket end at almost 30' long on a 12' base, we're going to need some help.
ReplyDeleteSorry, I looked at the wrong number, the bucket end is just over 20'
ReplyDeleteUm, how are you supposed to move the damn thing when the bucket is 27 feet in the air?
ReplyDeleteI think there is some goofing going on.
Please do not show this to any DPs. Someone's gonna ask for it.
With all the electronics already in the Technos, it would be possible to do the jib with the post, you just need to attach the back of the arm with a circling part at the base, similar to the Super/Duojibs on a Panther/Magnum dolly.
ReplyDeleteWhile I feel uncomfortable with the Super/Duojibs for their unpredictable weight balance, this system might work pretty well on a Techno!
Greetz Dan